The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.

[rhertz]

In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.

The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.

Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).

Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.

The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).

The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE NEUTRINO PER YEAR, at the Japanese Super-K is:

ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000

Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.

How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.

Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.

The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.

One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.

The most important facts are:

* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.

* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.

* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).

* The mutations are originated (as they say) due to mechanisms:

**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.

*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.

MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.

I smell a rotten fish around this.

Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.

HOAX!

[rhertz]

Missing PIC.

[rhertz]

Post by rhertz
Missing PIC.

[Ross Finlayson]

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

...

You forgot the Baikal detector at the other end of
the line of the Batavia-Baikal neutrinophone.


Neutrinos are simply whatever is superluminal flux,
when gravity's speed is infinite and light's is not,
and in the nuclear sector with Cerenkov/Brehmsstrahlung.

Don't you know there are three super-symmetries after
electron physics for muon, hadron (the most popular by far),
and neutrino physics?


It is so that many "physicists" today are "weak SR-ians"
and that's their limits and others don't know that nucleon
theory and hadron theory are different, and pretty much
dealing with their force/field as a model of motion of point/space
as "energy" absent "entelechy" and a continuous manifold of
space-time, is just a technician.


You need a super-classical model of motion if you're
going to, get anywhere, as it were.

[Ross Finlayson]

Post by Ross Finlayson

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

You forgot the Baikal detector at the other end of
the line of the Batavia-Baikal neutrinophone.
Neutrinos are simply whatever is superluminal flux,
when gravity's speed is infinite and light's is not,
and in the nuclear sector with Cerenkov/Brehmsstrahlung.
Don't you know there are three super-symmetries after
electron physics for muon, hadron (the most popular by far),
and neutrino physics?
It is so that many "physicists" today are "weak SR-ians"
and that's their limits and others don't know that nucleon
theory and hadron theory are different, and pretty much
dealing with their force/field as a model of motion of point/space
as "energy" absent "entelechy" and a continuous manifold of
space-time, is just a technician.
You need a super-classical model of motion if you're
going to, get anywhere, as it were.

...

Wow, it sort of seems like you don't know much about
the tetrad of quantities nor that relativity is a very
simple theory, then that particle/wave duality and the
wave/resonance dichotomy must be more or less that
the connection to continuum mechanics is incongruous,
to you.

[rhertz]

One problem with modern physics, since WWII, is that the population of
physicists increased 50 times since then, and the LACK OF TALENT TO BE A
POLYMATH is huge.

As complexity of any field in physics increase, mainly due to the
accumulated amount of information that they have to manage, and the
compartmentalizing of physics has vastly increased, any physicist that
want to leave a mark in this science has to choose just one field and
devote to it most of its professional life in order to add a new layer
of ideas (if he's lucky enough).

In the case of neutrino specialists, they have to struggle to cope the
increase of information from the last 3 or 4 decades if they want to add
something else to the pile of crap that knowledge in physics is.

Imagine a young physicist thinking WHERE TO DIG in his field of choice,
in order to write a paper with something new. In the case of neutrinos,
the knowledge went from a crazy idea to preserve the law of conservation
of energy (Pauli, 100 years ago) to the even more crazy and complex idea
that neutrinos had a crucial role in the evolution of the universe since
the big bang. Add to it the new ideas about HOW ANY STAR generates
energy from elementary Hydrogen.

So, as time advances, more physicists are forced to be more selective
(forget polymaths, as was usual 100+ years ago), and THEN PLAY BY THE
BOOK (don't dare to contradict any relativity crap).

[rhertz]

Question to ChatGPT (DeepSeek is better, but it's down).

QUESTION: Why neutrinos are so important in quantum physics?



ChatGPT said:
Neutrinos are incredibly important because they offer insight into the
fundamental forces and particles in the universe.

1. They Challenge the Standard Model
Neutrinos were originally thought to be massless, which was consistent
with the Standard Model of particle physics. However, experiments in the
late 1990s, such as the discovery of neutrino oscillations, showed that
neutrinos have a small but non-zero mass. This revelation was a major
breakthrough, suggesting that the Standard Model was incomplete and that
there must be physics beyond it.

Understanding the exact nature of neutrino mass could lead to a deeper
understanding of the universe.

2. Neutrino Oscillations
The phenomenon of neutrino oscillations—the process by which neutrinos
change from one type (or flavor) to another—provides a clear example of
quantum mechanics in action. This behavior requires the quantum
mechanical concept of superposition, where a particle like a neutrino
can exist in multiple states simultaneously.

3. Insight into Particle Physics and Cosmology
Neutrinos play a key role in both particle physics and cosmology. They
were produced in huge numbers during the Big Bang, and understanding
them can help us learn more about the early universe. Neutrinos also
interact weakly with matter, meaning they can travel long distances
through space and even pass through the Earth without much interaction.
This makes them valuable messengers for studying distant astrophysical
phenomena, such as supernovae and the early universe.

4. Weak Force and Quantum Field Theory
Neutrinos interact with other particles via the weak force, one of the
four fundamental forces of nature, which is described by quantum field
theory. The weak force is responsible for processes like beta decay, and
neutrinos are often emitted in such reactions. The study of neutrinos
helps us refine our understanding of weak interactions and how they fit
into the broader framework of quantum field theory.

5. The Neutrino as a Probe for New Physics
Because neutrinos are so weakly interacting, they can be used as a probe
to explore phenomena beyond the reach of other particles. For instance,
scientists hope that neutrinos could offer clues about dark matter and
dark energy, which make up most of the universe's mass-energy content
but are not directly detectable by conventional means. Neutrino
experiments are a promising avenue for studying these mysterious
components of the cosmos.

In summary, neutrinos are important because they provide a window into
the mysteries of the universe that we can't access with other particles.
Their role in quantum mechanics, their contribution to our understanding
of the forces of nature, and their potential to reveal new physics make
them central to the study of quantum physics and cosmology.

******************************************************************



MY CONCLUSION: Originally invented by Pauli in 1930 to save the law of
conservation of energy in beta decays (neutrons decay into protons and
electrons), they started to be used since the 1960s to solve ANY PROBLEM
in quantum physics WHERE CALCULATIONS FAIL (minor differences, but yet
relevant).

Even when not said by ChatGPT, they are a valuable excuse to justify
dark matter, dark energy and other mysteries in COSMOLOGY, much more
than Higgs crap and similar lunatic proposals.

But I doubt they EVEN EXIST. They are THEORETICAL CONSTRUCTS, like Higgs
boson and similar shit.

The world is rapidly degenerating, as it was never seen in history. Look
around about politics, economy, kazharian fiat money (USD, Euros, etc.),
food and energy inflation, AI crushing workforce rapidly, technology
dead ends, social wars on everything, overpopulation, proxy hot wars,
illiteracy in young people, misuse of smartphones and apps, fraud and
crime at state levels, rewriting of modern history, etc.

Physics is as corrupt as the society where it's developed today.

[The Starmaker]

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

...

Neutrino is not a hoax...

it's simply..not real.

What Feynman would say is...guess gone wrong.



throw against the wall to see if it sticks


it sticks to cranks.


retards LOVE neutrinos


they have a picture of it on their wall


or in a fish bowl (without water)


science fiction wanna bees

[The Starmaker]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

Neutrino is not a hoax...
it's simply..not real.
What Feynman would say is...guess gone wrong.
throw against the wall to see if it sticks
it sticks to cranks.
retards LOVE neutrinos
they have a picture of it on their wall
or in a fish bowl (without water)
science fiction wanna bees

...

lets not forget Wolfgang Pauli is and has always been a crank...he
believes in ESP, etc.


it's very hard to tell the difference between a expert and a crank...


they all end up...cranky.

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by The Starmaker

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960sâ•"2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall Ø 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall Ø 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

Neutrino is not a hoax...
it's simply..not real.
What Feynman would say is...guess gone wrong.
throw against the wall to see if it sticks
it sticks to cranks.
retards LOVE neutrinos
they have a picture of it on their wall
or in a fish bowl (without water)
science fiction wanna bees

lets not forget Wolfgang Pauli is and has always been a crank...he
believes in ESP, etc.

...

Sure, no better than Newton.

Post by The Starmaker
it's very hard to tell the difference between a expert and a crank...

Indeed, it takes an expert,

Jan

[bertitaylor]

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
100 years ago).
The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
(Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K
(36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
water.
Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
(from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
processing complete the calculations.
One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
(allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
* Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
* Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
* Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
**** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
neutrino masses.
*** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
(Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated.

...

good good good good good good good good

the law of conservation of energy is bollocks.

Energy is eternally created and destroyed in our infinite universe.

Follow Arindam's physics!

e=created/destroyed energy kinetically = 0.5mVVN(N-k)
That explains all energy formations and destructions from lighting a
match to atom bombs.

Woof woof woof woof

Bertietaylor

 





How neutrinos are generated

Post by rhertz
IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
unproven theories like the BB.
I smell a rotten fish around this.
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

...

--

[gharnagel]

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowan%E2%80%93Reines_neutrino_experiment

"Allegedly"? Is there an alternative explanation for positrons
being created in water close to a nuclear reactor?

Post by rhertz
....
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN.

This is a bit disingenuous. Neutrino mass is known to be less
than 0.45 eV at 90% confidence: arXiv:2406.13516.

Post by rhertz
....
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated.

Why do you believe that energy is not conserved? I mean, CoE has been
confirmed consistently in engineering and experimental physics. Even
so,
most physicists didn't go along with Pauli's hypothesis at the time.

"I have done a terrible thing, I have postulated a particle that cannot
be detected." – Wolfgang Pauli

Post by rhertz
How neutrinos are generated IS UNKNOWN.

They are generated in nuclear reactions. What's so unknown about that?

Post by rhertz
If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN.

Logical fallacy. Straw man argument.

Post by rhertz
Tens of billions of USD wasted for nothing,

What about medicare payments to people 150+ years old? They're less
detectable than neutrinos :-)

Post by rhertz
The existence of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to
FILL THE VOID in calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is
essential for such unproven theories like the BB.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail :-)

Post by rhertz
I smell a rotten fish around this.

If your fish were frozen in IceCube, it would be sun-tanned with
Cerenkov radiation generated from pieces of atoms suddenly
accelerated to hundreds of keV by ... nothing?

Post by rhertz
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

No one has seen an electron, so radio, tv, radar, computers, cars,
electricity are all HOAXES!

[rhertz]

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowan%E2%80%93Reines_neutrino_experiment
"Allegedly"? Is there an alternative explanation for positrons
being created in water close to a nuclear reactor?

Post by rhertz
....
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN.

This is a bit disingenuous. Neutrino mass is known to be less
than 0.45 eV at 90% confidence: arXiv:2406.13516.

Post by rhertz
....
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated.

Why do you believe that energy is not conserved? I mean, CoE has been
confirmed consistently in engineering and experimental physics. Even
so,
most physicists didn't go along with Pauli's hypothesis at the time.
"I have done a terrible thing, I have postulated a particle that cannot
be detected." – Wolfgang Pauli

Post by rhertz
How neutrinos are generated IS UNKNOWN.

They are generated in nuclear reactions. What's so unknown about that?

Post by rhertz
If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN.

Logical fallacy. Straw man argument.

Post by rhertz
Tens of billions of USD wasted for nothing,

What about medicare payments to people 150+ years old? They're less
detectable than neutrinos :-)

Post by rhertz
The existence of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to
FILL THE VOID in calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is
essential for such unproven theories like the BB.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail :-)

Post by rhertz
I smell a rotten fish around this.

If your fish were frozen in IceCube, it would be sun-tanned with
Cerenkov radiation generated from pieces of atoms suddenly
accelerated to hundreds of keV by ... nothing?

Post by rhertz
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

No one has seen an electron, so radio, tv, radar, computers, cars,
electricity are all HOAXES!

...

ENERGY IS NOT CONSERVED AT ALL. IT'S VALID ONLY ON EARTH AMONG A GROUP
OF SELF-ENTITLED INDIVIDUALS CALLED PHYSICISTS. THEY FIGHT FOR THE
INVIOLABLE DOGMA OF THE LCE, OTHERWISE THEY AND THEIR CAREER ARE FUCKED.

AT THE BEGINNING OF XIX CENTURY, NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS (A.K.A.
PHYSICISTS) WERE GLAD TO INCLUDE HEAT IN THE OVERALL ACCOUNT OF ENERGY
WITHIN A CLOSED SYSTEM. THEY'VE RESTED ON THIS CONCEPT AND THE ONE OF
MOMENTUM CONSERVATION, SO THEIR EXCEL CALCULATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE.

UNLESS THAT, IN ANOTHER MACRO-SCALE (LIKE THE UNIVERSE) THINGS ABOUT THE
AMOUNT OF MATTER THAT'S CALCULATED DISAGREE WITH THE FUCKING RELATIVITY.
THEN THEY CAME WITH THE CRAP OF DARK MATTER AND ENERGY FOR THE 95$
MISSING. SAME SHIT THAN WITH NEUTRINOS IN THE QUANTUM WORLD.

THAT ENERGY CONSERVATION (AS WELL AS MOMENTUM CONSERVATION) ARE JUST
MYTHS, THERE IS THE THEORY OF THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE FROM A
PROVERBIAL ATOM THAT WENT OFF (FROM THE JESUIT PHYSICIST, 100 YEARS
AGO). EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE ROTATES, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY SINGLE
PROOF THAT THERE ARE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF ROTATIONS CLOCKWISE AND
COUNTERCLOCKWISE IN ALL THE CELESTIAL BODIES THAT JUSTIFY SUCH STUPID
IDEA (JUST BECAUSE LOCALLY IT SOUND NICE).

SAME WITH MASS CONSERVATION LAW (STILL EXIST, ISN'T IT?). WHERE IS THE
SAME AMOUNT OF ANTI-MATTER TO COUNTERACT THE MATTER EXPELLED FROM THE
POINT THAT EXPLODED?

PHYSICS IS A FUCKING FARCE, VALID ONLY FOR PARASITES (AND NOBEL
ENCOURAGED IT).

THE WORLD DEVELOPED THANKS TO INVENTORS AND ENGINEER SINCE SUMERIAN
TIMES, OR MUCH OLDER THAN THAT.

[gharnagel]

Post by rhertz

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino

(named in

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN.

This is a bit disingenuous. Neutrino mass is known to be less
than 0.45 eV at 90% confidence: arXiv:2406.13516.

Post by rhertz
....
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise
the law of conservation of energy is violated.

Why do you believe that energy is not conserved? I mean, CoE has been
confirmed consistently in engineering and experimental physics. Even
so, most physicists didn't go along with Pauli's hypothesis at the

time.

Post by gharnagel
"I have done a terrible thing, I have postulated a particle that

cannot

Post by gharnagel
be detected." – Wolfgang Pauli

Post by rhertz
How neutrinos are generated IS UNKNOWN.

They are generated in nuclear reactions. What's so unknown about

that?

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN.

Logical fallacy. Straw man argument.

Post by rhertz
Tens of billions of USD wasted for nothing,

What about medicare payments to people 150+ years old? They're less
detectable than neutrinos :-)

Post by rhertz
The existence of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to
FILL THE VOID in calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is
essential for such unproven theories like the BB.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail :-)

Post by rhertz
I smell a rotten fish around this.

If your fish were frozen in IceCube, it would be sun-tanned with
Cerenkov radiation generated from pieces of atoms suddenly
accelerated to hundreds of keV by ... nothing?

Post by rhertz
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

No one has seen an electron, so radio, tv, radar, computers, cars,
electricity are all HOAXES!

ENERGY IS NOT CONSERVED AT ALL. IT'S VALID ONLY ON EARTH AMONG A
GROUP OF SELF-ENTITLED INDIVIDUALS CALLED PHYSICISTS. THEY FIGHT
FOR THE INVIOLABLE DOGMA OF THE LCE, OTHERWISE THEY AND THEIR
CAREER ARE FUCKED.

...

Completely false. CoE is confirmed daily by engineers working in
aircraft design, fluid flow, thermal dissipation, and electronics.

"In real-world applications, understanding the conservation of energy
helps engineers design efficient systems like pipelines and aircraft
by optimizing energy use."

https://library.fiveable.me/key-terms/introduction-chemical-engineering/conservation-of-energy

"This course introduces the scientific principles that deal with energy
conversion among different forms, such as heat, work, internal,
electrical, and chemical energy. The physical science of heat and
temperature, and their relations to energy and work, are analyzed on
the basis of the four fundamental thermodynamic laws (zeroth, first,
second, and third). These principles are applied to various practical
systems, including heat engines, refrigeration cycles, air conditioning,
and chemical reacting systems."

https://me.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ME-40-Thermodynamics.pdf

If you don't design with CoE in mind, you're not a good engineer.

Post by rhertz
AT THE BEGINNING OF XIX CENTURY, NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS (A.K.A.
PHYSICISTS) WERE GLAD TO INCLUDE HEAT IN THE OVERALL ACCOUNT OF ENERGY
WITHIN A CLOSED SYSTEM. THEY'VE RESTED ON THIS CONCEPT AND THE ONE OF
MOMENTUM CONSERVATION, SO THEIR EXCEL CALCULATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE.

You don't believe in conservation of momentum, either? :-))

Post by rhertz
UNLESS THAT, IN ANOTHER MACRO-SCALE (LIKE THE UNIVERSE) THINGS ABOUT
THE AMOUNT OF MATTER THAT'S CALCULATED DISAGREE WITH THE FUCKING
RELATIVITY.

Why should relativity agree with regions are beyond our ability with
which to interact? It makes sense to use what we know (which has been
confirmed locally - like, in our solar system) and try to apply it
nonlocally to see if it still works. Maybe it does and maybe it
doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it does work locally.

Post by rhertz
THEN THEY CAME WITH THE CRAP OF DARK MATTER AND ENERGY FOR THE 95$
MISSING. SAME SHIT THAN WITH NEUTRINOS IN THE QUANTUM WORLD.

More straw man arguments. Of course, you have no clue about any
alternative for why galaxies don't fly apart. Or why neutrons in
stable nuclei suddenly decide to blow apart.

Post by rhertz
THAT ENERGY CONSERVATION (AS WELL AS MOMENTUM CONSERVATION) ARE JUST
MYTHS, THERE IS THE THEORY OF THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE FROM A
PROVERBIAL ATOM THAT WENT OFF (FROM THE JESUIT PHYSICIST, 100 YEARS
AGO). EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE ROTATES, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY SINGLE
PROOF THAT THERE ARE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF ROTATIONS CLOCKWISE AND
COUNTERCLOCKWISE IN ALL THE CELESTIAL BODIES THAT JUSTIFY SUCH STUPID
IDEA (JUST BECAUSE LOCALLY IT SOUND NICE).
SAME WITH MASS CONSERVATION LAW (STILL EXIST, ISN'T IT?). WHERE IS THE
SAME AMOUNT OF ANTI-MATTER TO COUNTERACT THE MATTER EXPELLED FROM THE
POINT THAT EXPLODED?

...

More straw man argument. You have no explanation for why, so don't
denigrate attempts to explain what you can't.

Post by rhertz
PHYSICS IS A FUCKING FARCE, VALID ONLY FOR PARASITES (AND NOBEL
ENCOURAGED IT).
THE WORLD DEVELOPED THANKS TO INVENTORS AND ENGINEER SINCE SUMERIAN
TIMES, OR MUCH OLDER THAN THAT.

Yeah, engineers who believe in conservation of energy and momentum :-))

[Ross Finlayson]

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino

(named in

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN.

This is a bit disingenuous. Neutrino mass is known to be less
than 0.45 eV at 90% confidence: arXiv:2406.13516.

Post by rhertz
....
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise
the law of conservation of energy is violated.

Why do you believe that energy is not conserved? I mean, CoE has been
confirmed consistently in engineering and experimental physics. Even
so, most physicists didn't go along with Pauli's hypothesis at the

time.

Post by gharnagel
"I have done a terrible thing, I have postulated a particle that

cannot

Post by gharnagel
be detected." – Wolfgang Pauli

Post by rhertz
How neutrinos are generated IS UNKNOWN.

They are generated in nuclear reactions. What's so unknown about

that?

Post by gharnagel

Post by rhertz
If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN.

Logical fallacy. Straw man argument.

Post by rhertz
Tens of billions of USD wasted for nothing,

What about medicare payments to people 150+ years old? They're less
detectable than neutrinos :-)

Post by rhertz
The existence of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to
FILL THE VOID in calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is
essential for such unproven theories like the BB.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail :-)

Post by rhertz
I smell a rotten fish around this.

If your fish were frozen in IceCube, it would be sun-tanned with
Cerenkov radiation generated from pieces of atoms suddenly
accelerated to hundreds of keV by ... nothing?

Post by rhertz
Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

No one has seen an electron, so radio, tv, radar, computers, cars,
electricity are all HOAXES!

ENERGY IS NOT CONSERVED AT ALL. IT'S VALID ONLY ON EARTH AMONG A
GROUP OF SELF-ENTITLED INDIVIDUALS CALLED PHYSICISTS. THEY FIGHT
FOR THE INVIOLABLE DOGMA OF THE LCE, OTHERWISE THEY AND THEIR
CAREER ARE FUCKED.

Completely false. CoE is confirmed daily by engineers working in
aircraft design, fluid flow, thermal dissipation, and electronics.
"In real-world applications, understanding the conservation of energy
helps engineers design efficient systems like pipelines and aircraft
by optimizing energy use."
https://library.fiveable.me/key-terms/introduction-chemical-engineering/conservation-of-energy
"This course introduces the scientific principles that deal with energy
conversion among different forms, such as heat, work, internal,
electrical, and chemical energy. The physical science of heat and
temperature, and their relations to energy and work, are analyzed on
the basis of the four fundamental thermodynamic laws (zeroth, first,
second, and third). These principles are applied to various practical
systems, including heat engines, refrigeration cycles, air conditioning,
and chemical reacting systems."
https://me.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ME-40-Thermodynamics.pdf
If you don't design with CoE in mind, you're not a good engineer.

Post by rhertz
AT THE BEGINNING OF XIX CENTURY, NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS (A.K.A.
PHYSICISTS) WERE GLAD TO INCLUDE HEAT IN THE OVERALL ACCOUNT OF ENERGY
WITHIN A CLOSED SYSTEM. THEY'VE RESTED ON THIS CONCEPT AND THE ONE OF
MOMENTUM CONSERVATION, SO THEIR EXCEL CALCULATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE.

You don't believe in conservation of momentum, either? :-))

Post by rhertz
UNLESS THAT, IN ANOTHER MACRO-SCALE (LIKE THE UNIVERSE) THINGS ABOUT
THE AMOUNT OF MATTER THAT'S CALCULATED DISAGREE WITH THE FUCKING
RELATIVITY.

Why should relativity agree with regions are beyond our ability with
which to interact? It makes sense to use what we know (which has been
confirmed locally - like, in our solar system) and try to apply it
nonlocally to see if it still works. Maybe it does and maybe it
doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it does work locally.

Post by rhertz
THEN THEY CAME WITH THE CRAP OF DARK MATTER AND ENERGY FOR THE 95$
MISSING. SAME SHIT THAN WITH NEUTRINOS IN THE QUANTUM WORLD.

More straw man arguments. Of course, you have no clue about any
alternative for why galaxies don't fly apart. Or why neutrons in
stable nuclei suddenly decide to blow apart.

Post by rhertz
THAT ENERGY CONSERVATION (AS WELL AS MOMENTUM CONSERVATION) ARE JUST
MYTHS, THERE IS THE THEORY OF THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE FROM A
PROVERBIAL ATOM THAT WENT OFF (FROM THE JESUIT PHYSICIST, 100 YEARS
AGO). EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE ROTATES, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY SINGLE
PROOF THAT THERE ARE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF ROTATIONS CLOCKWISE AND
COUNTERCLOCKWISE IN ALL THE CELESTIAL BODIES THAT JUSTIFY SUCH STUPID
IDEA (JUST BECAUSE LOCALLY IT SOUND NICE).
SAME WITH MASS CONSERVATION LAW (STILL EXIST, ISN'T IT?). WHERE IS THE
SAME AMOUNT OF ANTI-MATTER TO COUNTERACT THE MATTER EXPELLED FROM THE
POINT THAT EXPLODED?

More straw man argument. You have no explanation for why, so don't
denigrate attempts to explain what you can't.

Post by rhertz
PHYSICS IS A FUCKING FARCE, VALID ONLY FOR PARASITES (AND NOBEL
ENCOURAGED IT).
THE WORLD DEVELOPED THANKS TO INVENTORS AND ENGINEER SINCE SUMERIAN
TIMES, OR MUCH OLDER THAN THAT.

Yeah, engineers who believe in conservation of energy and momentum :-))

...

I don't believe in conservation of "un-linear" momentum. That is
to say, it results an open system where the exchange of "real" and
what are called "fictitious" forces, which are quite real, makes
that various extended bodies as open systems, see invalidated
the usual local, classical, linear "conservation of momentum".


Add "fictitious forces" and see what it gets you.

The conservation of energy has that energy pretty much
is the fungible "constant" or as of a quantity, yet
among differing and various states of matter and
energy, energy can be going more than one direction.

Add "non-adiabatic" and see what it gets you.


It still makes sense the conservation of energy,
yet various law(s), plural, and they're all in
effect according to configuration and (amount of)
energy in experiment, "dynamics", has that in usual
engineering cases, dynamics start to contribute
character and cases at only a few orders of magnitude.


Then, lots of the usual most familiar, "engineering
formulas", are statics, and about linear cases, then
that classical mechanics actually has an account
where for example the Magnus effect is "empirically"
more than the usual theoretical account, about "heft",
or about the differences between the linear and rotational,
or kinetics and kinematics, as for example a reading of
Einstein's second mass-energy equivalency shows, and that
in the first mass-energy equivalency, would be among all
the infinitely-many terms of the usual derivation's
truncated Taylor expansion.

Add "multipole moment" and see what it gets you.

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by gharnagel
Why should relativity agree with regions are beyond our ability with
which to interact?  It makes sense to use what we know (which has been
confirmed locally - like, in our solar system) and try to apply it
nonlocally to see if it still works.  Maybe it does and maybe it
doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it does work locally.

A lie, of course, as expected from a piece of
relativistic shit. The mumble of your idiot guru
was not even consistent; it has never worked
and it will never do, unless by "working" we
mean brainwashing some fanatic idiots like you.

And in the meantime in the real world,
forbidden by your absurd religion "improper"
clocks keep measuring improper t'=t in
improper seconds.

[Thomas Heger]

Post by rhertz

Post by gharnagel

In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli  proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowan%E2%80%93Reines_neutrino_experiment
"Allegedly"? Is there an alternative explanation for positrons
being created in water close to a nuclear reactor?

....
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN.

This is a bit disingenuous.  Neutrino mass is known to be less
than 0.45 eV at 90% confidence: arXiv:2406.13516.

....
MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
law of conservation of energy is violated.

Why do you believe that energy is not conserved?  I mean, CoE has been
confirmed consistently in engineering and experimental physics.  Even
so,
most physicists didn't go along with Pauli's hypothesis at the time.
"I have done a terrible thing, I have postulated a particle that cannot
be detected." – Wolfgang Pauli

How neutrinos are generated IS UNKNOWN.

They are generated in nuclear reactions.  What's so unknown about that?

If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN.

Logical fallacy. Straw man argument.

Tens of billions of USD wasted for nothing,

What about medicare payments to people 150+ years old?  They're less
detectable than neutrinos :-)

The existence of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to
FILL THE VOID in calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is
essential for such unproven theories like the BB.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail :-)

I smell a rotten fish around this.

If your fish were frozen in IceCube, it would be sun-tanned with
Cerenkov radiation generated from pieces of atoms suddenly
accelerated to hundreds of keV by ... nothing?

Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
happy, and have zero accountability.
HOAX!

No one has seen an electron, so radio, tv, radar, computers, cars,
electricity are all HOAXES!

ENERGY IS NOT CONSERVED AT ALL. IT'S VALID ONLY ON EARTH AMONG A GROUP
OF SELF-ENTITLED INDIVIDUALS CALLED PHYSICISTS. THEY FIGHT FOR THE
INVIOLABLE DOGMA OF THE LCE, OTHERWISE THEY AND THEIR CAREER ARE FUCKED.
AT THE BEGINNING OF XIX CENTURY, NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS (A.K.A.
PHYSICISTS) WERE GLAD TO INCLUDE HEAT IN THE OVERALL ACCOUNT OF ENERGY
WITHIN A CLOSED SYSTEM. THEY'VE RESTED ON THIS CONCEPT AND THE ONE OF
MOMENTUM CONSERVATION, SO THEIR EXCEL CALCULATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE.
UNLESS THAT, IN ANOTHER MACRO-SCALE (LIKE THE UNIVERSE) THINGS ABOUT THE
AMOUNT OF MATTER THAT'S CALCULATED DISAGREE WITH THE FUCKING RELATIVITY.
THEN THEY CAME WITH THE CRAP OF DARK MATTER AND ENERGY FOR THE 95$
MISSING. SAME SHIT THAN WITH NEUTRINOS IN THE QUANTUM WORLD.
THAT ENERGY CONSERVATION (AS WELL AS MOMENTUM CONSERVATION) ARE JUST
MYTHS, THERE IS THE THEORY OF THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE FROM A
PROVERBIAL ATOM THAT WENT OFF (FROM THE JESUIT PHYSICIST, 100 YEARS
AGO). EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE ROTATES, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY SINGLE
PROOF THAT THERE ARE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF ROTATIONS CLOCKWISE AND
COUNTERCLOCKWISE IN ALL THE CELESTIAL BODIES THAT JUSTIFY SUCH STUPID
IDEA (JUST BECAUSE LOCALLY IT SOUND NICE).
SAME WITH MASS CONSERVATION LAW (STILL EXIST, ISN'T IT?). WHERE IS THE
SAME AMOUNT OF ANTI-MATTER TO COUNTERACT THE MATTER EXPELLED FROM THE
POINT THAT EXPLODED?

...

As a non-physicist and pure hobbyist I had no such restrictions.

But I had thought about some of the problems mentioned since my times in
school (what is quite long ago now).

My main own approach came actually from chemistry, mathematics and
electronics and also from engineering.

Theoretical physics came MUCH later.

But I had an idea, which I named 'structured spacetime' and which would
allow to address some of the problems in physiks, that I have heard about.

This idea can be found in my 'book' here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

There are some mayor differences to mainstream physics.

For instance, it is based on a continuum and not on particles of any kind.

Particles, mass and matter are treated as internal 'structures' (of/in
spacetime).

That's why this concept is named 'structured spacetime'.

The idea is also relatively simple and 'streight foreward', though VERY
counter-intuitive.

It is already quite old (from 2008) and was the first thing, which I had
written about physics.

But I would like to hear comments, anyhow.

As 'proof of concept' I would use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as
correct theory).

TH