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Oliver Heaviside and other GENIUS against Einstein in that epoch
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Richard Hertz
2022-02-23 19:51:04 UTC
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Just to break the ice:

"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."

Oliver Heaviside.
Richard Hertz
2022-02-23 20:06:44 UTC
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A simple explanation for the movement of relativity in early XX century (I've told you, it's pure crappy metaphysics):


SCIENTIFIC SURREALISM
Shannon Schmiedeke

If one utters the word Surrealism outside the company of art historians,
one can generally expect puzzled-faced responses, with occasional
recognition of Salvador Dali, the token spokesperson of the Surrealist
movement. While people are often familiar with the famous melting
clocks featured in Dali's Persistence of Memory, most do not understand
the cultural influences that Dali and other Surrealists strove to express.


Surrealism and physics

The art of the Surrealists was based on rapidly emerging modern sciences.
Its shocking themes including such controversial subjects as
masturbation, sadism, homosexuality. They were artistic manifestations of
contemporary scientific theories. One may observe the art of the Surrealists,
noting the cutting-edge subject matter and immense artistic talents,
which shaped the Surrealist movement. But in order to truly understand
and appreciate the work of the Surrealists, one must understand the cul-
tural climate in which it was created, and how the Surrealist movement
was a reflection of the contemporary innovations of modern ideology.

Physics, like psychology, was gaining popular interest amongst
scholars and artists during the 1930s. Einstein's theories on space and
time inspired a new realm of thought for Surrealists, and a new perspec-
tive on the universe and reality, as it was understood. Dali said in 1935,
that the soft watches in his Persistence of Memory (1931), Dali's best
known painting, were a metaphor for Einstein's ideas being nothing
else than the tender extravagant and solitary paranoiac-critical camembert
of time and space (as quoted in Gamwell, 2002, p. 241).

The Surrealists had already challenged perceptions of reality through
psychological self-analysis. They then embarked to explore the illusions of
perception through physics and metaphysics
Richard Hertz
2022-02-23 20:10:36 UTC
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The unresolved mathematical paradox presented by Paul Langevin refutes SR.

<<Abstract
Einstein addressed the twin paradox in special relativity
in a relatively unknown, unusual and rarely cited paper
written in 1918, in the form of a dialogue between a
critic and a relativist.

Contrary to most textbook versions
of the resolution, Einstein admitted that the special
relativistic time dilation was symmetric for the twins,
and he had to invoke, asymmetrically, the general relativistic
gravitational time dilation during the brief periods
of acceleration to justify the asymmetrical aging.

Notably, Einstein did not use any argument related to
simultaneity or Doppler shift in his analysis. I discuss
Einstein's resolution and several conceptual issues
that arise. It is concluded that Einstein's resolution using
gravitational time dilation suffers from logical and
physical flaws, and gives incorrect answers in a general
setting. The counter examples imply the need to reconsider
many issues related to the comparison of transported
clocks.

The failure of the accepted views and resolutions is traced to the fact that the special relativity principle
formulated originally for physics in empty space is not valid in the matter-filled universe.

C. S. Unnikrishnan
Gravitation Group,
J. J. Lodder
2022-02-23 21:15:44 UTC
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Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Some more breakage:

Heaviside was an opponent of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity.
Mathematician Howard Eves has commented that Heaviside "was the only
first-rate physicist at the time to impugn Einstein, and his invectives
against relativity theory often bordered on the absurd"
(Howard Eves, as quoted in Wikipedia))

Jan
Cirilo Actis
2022-02-23 21:28:58 UTC
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Post by J. J. Lodder
Heaviside was an opponent of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity.
Mathematician Howard Eves has commented that Heaviside "was the only
first-rate physicist at the time to impugn Einstein, and his invectives
against relativity theory often bordered on the absurd"
(Howard Eves, as quoted in Wikipedia)) Jan
you have it upside down, the relativity is bordered by absurd.
J. J. Lodder
2022-02-23 22:43:01 UTC
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Post by Cirilo Actis
Post by J. J. Lodder
Heaviside was an opponent of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity.
Mathematician Howard Eves has commented that Heaviside "was the only
first-rate physicist at the time to impugn Einstein, and his invectives
against relativity theory often bordered on the absurd"
(Howard Eves, as quoted in Wikipedia)) Jan
you have it upside down, the relativity is bordered by absurd.
See here,

Jan
(just wondering if all of you denialists here are really that dumb?)
Michael Moroney
2022-02-24 00:30:14 UTC
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Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
Richard Hertz
2022-02-24 01:35:08 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin. Always a fucking cretin relativist, Morotkin.


Wikipedia

Oliver Heaviside FRS was an English self-taught mathematician and physicist who brought complex numbers to circuit analysis,
invented a new technique for solving differential equations, independently developed vector calculus, and rewrote Maxwell's equations
in the form commonly used today.

Born: May 18, 1850, Camden Town, London, United Kingdom
Died: February 3, 1925, Torquay, United Kingdom

Fields: Electrical engineering, mathematics and physics
Awards: Fellow of the Royal Society, IET Faraday Medal (1922)
Michael Moroney
2022-02-24 03:27:55 UTC
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Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?

Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.

Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
JanPB
2022-02-24 04:12:55 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?
Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.
Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
Mental illness is probably too much for most of them. What it is
is a kind of hysteria. It happened many times through history.

--
Jan
Horacio Gomez
2022-02-24 20:05:50 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
Mental illness is probably too much for most of them. What it is is a
kind of hysteria. It happened many times through history.
Are you Polish? I guess he just saved your life. Watch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Poles In late 1942, when
Bandera was in a German concentration camp, his organization, the
Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, was involved in a massacre of
Poles in Volhynia and, in early 1944, ethnic cleansing also spread to
Eastern Galicia. It is estimated that more than 35,000 and up to
60,000[65] Poles, mostly women and children along with unarmed men, were
killed during the spring and summer campaign of 1943 in Volhynia, and up
to 100,000 if other regions, such as Eastern Galicia, are included.[66]
[67]

Despite the central role played by Bandera's followers in the massacre of
Poles in western Ukraine, Bandera himself was interned in a German
concentration camp when the concrete decision to massacre the Poles was
made and when the Poles were killed.[clarification needed] According to
Yaroslav Hrytsak, Bandera was not completely aware of events in Ukraine
during his internment from the summer of 1941 and had serious differences
of opinion with Mykola Lebed, the OUN-B leader who remained in Ukraine and
who was one of the chief architects of the massacres of Poles,[68][69]
while Bandera was not directly involved in those massacres according to
Hrystak.[68][unreliable source?]

Richard Hertz
2022-02-24 05:48:05 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?
Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.
Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
Neither Heaviside nor Tesla didn't want to cut a deal with the cabal. So, even when the cabal gave them an allowance for their
rest of lifetime, they were isolated and defamed.

But these two genius INVENTED and developed the modern world (energy, physics, math, engineering). And your fucking parasite,
that cut a deal, produced NOTHING. But cabal stated: we'll make you famous and you'll payback by traveling around the world
getting fundraising for one of our causes. Don't fail on us, and you will live without any need about money. Good money for the
rest of your life.

So, Heaviside and Tesla lived modestly with the allowance but Einstein got $230,000/year for the rest of his life (current value of $).

Do you dare to contradict to me on these unspokable but heavily documented facts,. ASSHOLE?

Do you forget that he left Argentina with suitcases FULL OF MONEY for the cabal, as well as at Brazil?

Do you want to whom and where he contacted here, and stayed for two months in the 1920s? Argentinians don't forget.

Cretin.
Michael Moroney
2022-02-24 08:24:09 UTC
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Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?
Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.
Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
Now let's examine how Einsteinophobia can be such a debilitating mental
illness, by analyzing the blithering of one of its victims.
Post by Richard Hertz
Neither Heaviside nor Tesla didn't want to cut a deal with the cabal.
The victim is apparently hallucinating; he hallucinates some sort of
cabal going after Tesla and Heaviside with some sort of deal they refused.
Post by Richard Hertz
So, even when the cabal gave them an allowance for their
rest of lifetime, they were isolated and defamed.
Now he hallucinates this cabal imprisoned them, rather than both of them
having some sort of issues of their own.
Post by Richard Hertz
But these two genius INVENTED and developed the modern world (energy, physics, math, engineering). And your fucking parasite,
that cut a deal, produced NOTHING.
The Einsteinophobia sufferer correctly praises these two men but then
suffers remorse for never producing anything himself and for being a
parasite, but projects his own failure onto myself. Very common for
those with mental issues to do that.
Post by Richard Hertz
But cabal stated: we'll make you famous and you'll payback by traveling around the world
getting fundraising for one of our causes. Don't fail on us, and you will live without any need about money. Good money for the
rest of your life.
Another cabal hallucination, and conspiracy theories (a touch of
paranoid schizophrenia?).
Post by Richard Hertz
So, Heaviside and Tesla lived modestly with the allowance but Einstein got $230,000/year for the rest of his life (current value of $).
Envy over Einstein being paid well, while the other two withdraw and
start to suffer, perhaps from their own Einsteinophobia and the comorbid
associated mental illnesses. But we must stick with our subject lab rat.
Post by Richard Hertz
Do you dare to contradict to me on these unspokable but heavily documented facts,. ASSHOLE?
Here we see delusional behavior, where the Einsteinophobia victim sees
his hallucinations as "heavily documented facts", plus lashing out since
he knows these really are delusions which will be attacked.
Post by Richard Hertz
Do you forget that he left Argentina with suitcases FULL OF MONEY for the cabal, as well as at Brazil?
The poor victim, now he has nightmares of Einstein being some sort of
smuggler mule for his imaginary cabal. His nightmare cartel is some sort
of drug cartel? Is Einstein part of the cartel now or is he an
unknowing money mule??
Post by Richard Hertz
Do you want to whom and where he contacted here, and stayed for two months in the 1920s? Argentinians don't forget.
Is this another wave of delusions going on?
What have we seen happen to the poor victim? In addition to the
Einsteinophobia, we see nightmares and hallucinations leading to
delusions (sign of schizophrenia or related) and paranoia
(schizophrenia?) plus a mean streak, and, of course the OCD which almost
always happens with Einsteinophobia.
Post by Richard Hertz
Cretin.
Nice signature, at least, Richard.
Maciej Wozniak
2022-02-24 08:37:28 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Neither Heaviside nor Tesla didn't want to cut a deal with the cabal.
The victim is apparently hallucinating; he hallucinates some sort of
delusion that a person standing 100 m away must be
measured as 42.
J. J. Lodder
2022-02-24 08:58:06 UTC
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Richard Hertz <***@gmail.com> wrote:
[-]
Post by Richard Hertz
Neither Heaviside nor Tesla didn't want to cut a deal with the cabal. So,
even when the cabal gave them an allowance for their rest of lifetime,
they were isolated and defamed.
But these two genius INVENTED and developed the modern world (energy,
physics, math, engineering). And your fucking parasite, that cut a deal,
produced NOTHING. But cabal stated: we'll make you famous and you'll
payback by traveling around the world getting fundraising for one of our
causes. Don't fail on us, and you will live without any need about money.
Good money for the rest of your life.
So, Heaviside and Tesla lived modestly with the allowance but Einstein got
$230,000/year for the rest of his life (current value of $).
Do you dare to contradict to me on these unspokable but heavily documented facts,. ASSHOLE?
Do you forget that he left Argentina with suitcases FULL OF MONEY for the
cabal, as well as at Brazil?
Do you want to whom and where he contacted here, and stayed for two months
in the 1920s? Argentinians don't forget.
Don't merely foam at the mouth.
Try to learn how to do it like a native speaker,

Jan
J. J. Lodder
2022-02-24 08:58:06 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?
Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.
Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
No need to. It is just a particular case of Freud's 'Father Complex'.
(just like the Oedipus Complex, with fucking the mother left out)

The patriarch needs to be taken down and smashed to pieces,
precisely because he is too great and over-powering.

It is just the same as (for example)
the creationist's attitudes towards Darwin.
Any 'great name' in any scientific field
is likely to attract detractors.

If coherent arguments are lacking foaming at the mouth will do,

Jan
Maciej Wozniak
2022-02-24 09:09:33 UTC
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Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear to be heading toward insanity during his later years,
becoming a disheveled recluse wearing bright pink fingernail polish,
replacing his furniture with large blocks of granite and taunting local
children to the point they threw rocks at his windows and graffitied his
gate. Perhaps that dissing of Einstein was just the first sign of
developing madness? :-)
He was between 57 and 60 by then, cretin.
And from what I read, he spent his last two decades as an "eccentric".
Hmm, he died in 1925, two decades earlier was 1905.. What else was
significant about 1905? Coincidence?
Anyway, one data point isn't enough. But another genius who didn't like
Einstein and went nuts was Tesla. Had a thing for pigeons near the end.
Now look at those who populated this group over time. So many apparent
OCD victims obsessed with hating Einstein or relativity. Almost all of
them appear(ed) to be insane, each in their own way. I think there's
enough data there. I suggest the next version of the DSM should have an
"Einsteinophobia" (irrational hatred and fear of Albert) diagnosis, not
just as a disease by itself but almost always an indicator of multiple
other mental illnesses.
No need to. It is just a particular case of Freud's 'Father Complex'.
(just like the Oedipus Complex, with fucking the mother left out)
The patriarch needs to be taken down and smashed to pieces,
precisely because he is too great and over-powering.
That some morons are worshipping him dosen't make
your idiot guru especially powerful. See: according to
him the clocks of GPS satellites should be set to 9 192 631 770.
According to the common sense - to 9 192 631 774.
They are set - to 9 192 631 774. Aren't they?

Common sense may be just a collection of prejudices,
but it's still outclassing the combined power of your
guru and the whole of your bunch of idiots.
Maciej Wozniak
2022-02-24 06:30:01 UTC
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Post by Michael Moroney
Post by Richard Hertz
"I don't find Einstein's Relativity agrees with me. It is the most
unnatural and difficult to understand way of representing facts that could
be thought of. . . . And I really think that Einstein is a practical
joker, pulling the legs of his enthusiastic followers, more Einsteinisch
than he."
Oliver Heaviside.
He did appear
As 42 when standing 100 m away. Sure, stupid Mike, sure.
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