iEinstein (1939): Schwarzschild singularities don't exist in physical reality.

[rhertz]

Einstein didn't buy the "black holes" crap, decades before they were
INVENTED.



The Annals of Mathematics, Second Series, Vol. 40, No. 4
(Oct., 1939), pp. 922-936
(Received May 10, 1939)

ON A STATIONARY SYSTEM WITH SPHERICAL SYMMETRY CONSISTING OF MANY
GRAVITATING MASSES
BY ALBERT EINSTEIN

http://old.phys.huji.ac.il/~barak_kol/Courses/Black-holes/reading-papers/Einstein1939.pdf

QUOTE:
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"The essential result of this investigation is a clear understanding as
to why the "Schwarzschild singularities" do not exist in physical
reality. Although the theory given here treats only clusters whose
particles move along circular paths it does not seem to be subject to
reasonable doubt that more general cases will have analogous results.
The "Schwarzschild singularity" does not appear for the reason that
matter cannot be concentrated arbitrarily. And this is due to the fact
that otherwise the constituting particles would reach the velocity of
light."
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This investigation arose out of discussions the author conducted with
Professor H. P. Robertson and with Drs. V. Bargmann and P. Bergmann on
the mathematical and physical significance of the Schwarzschild
singularity. The problem quite naturally leads to the question, answered
by this paper in the negative, whether physical models are capable of
exhibiting such a singularity."

[rhertz]

If Einstein didn't approve any physical interpretation of these
singularities, it has to be accepted that black holes are an HOAX.

Unless post-einstenians think that Einstein was a fucking retarded who
didn't recognize his own work, as well as the other three physicists
that were involved in the writing of the 1939 paper.

Hard choice, isn't it?

Einstein right or Einstein wrong?

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Mr. Hertz: I think all reasonable and intelligent people understand the
singularity is a mathematical fiction. John Michell already knew there
must be black holes if light is affected by gravity.

[rhertz]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Mr. Hertz: I think all reasonable and intelligent people understand the
singularity is a mathematical fiction. John Michell already knew there
must be black holes if light is affected by gravity.

250 years ago it was accepted, under the corpuscular theory of light,
that light couldn't escape from massive celestial bodies.


The origin of this concept can be traced back to the writings of
England's John Michell and France's Pierre-Simon Laplace in 1784 and
1796 respectively.

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Mr. Hertz: If gravity moves at the speed of light, how can it escape
black holes and draw anything in? It cannot, so gravity cannot move at c
contrary to relativistic pseudoscience. It doesn't take a genius to
understand this kazu.

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Mr. Hertz: I was just reminded of this point by Smulsky in this article:
"Real Forces and Unreal Hypotheses" -Joseph J. Smulsky.

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Mr. Hertz: In other words, gravitation itself would not have escape
velocity sufficient to escape a "black hole" star if its speed was c.

[Ross Finlayson]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Mr. Hertz: I think all reasonable and intelligent people understand the
singularity is a mathematical fiction. John Michell already knew there
must be black holes if light is affected by gravity.

The gravitational singularity is an extreme and regime even if
there are yet no "infinite" values, and the derivation of the
Schwarzschild radius, and yes the spelling of that is often
reduced to Schw., is certainly well-defined according to gmm/r^2.

As with regards to it being a "fiction" it's not more a fiction
than are for example "particles". It's a conceit, a concession,
to that the asymptotic, as would be infinite, is arbtrarily large,
much like particles as arbitrarily small, then as with regards to
the physics of the electron physics and Thompson and Millikan and
the ubiquitous success of atomic theory, vis-a-vis molecular theory,
and particle / wave duality, and wave/resonance theory, as with
regards to objects and bodies acting as gravitational singularities,
when for example they're merely arbitrarily massy, or as with
regards to the relativistic mass of fast-rotating objects,
as with regards to the behavior and lifetime of gravitational
singularities, as they are, asymptotes, vis-a-vis that they're
not necessarily immovable objects and spherical Zwicky's,
nor of eternal lifetime.


It's just a running out of the running constants, ....



Then the actual infinite and infinitesimal in physics is
mostly as related to continuum mechanics, where there's
usually enough a quantized particle model of that, as if
what where the infinite spin of waves that in a current of
them get modeled as a wave-like distribution of points,
makes for that plain perfect classical mathematics of the finite,
will eventually not suffice.

It's a continuum mechanics, ....

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by rhertz
If Einstein didn't approve any physical interpretation of these
singularities, it has to be accepted that black holes are an HOAX.
Unless post-einstenians think that Einstein was a fucking retarded who
didn't recognize his own work, as well as the other three physicists
that were involved in the writing of the 1939 paper.
Hard choice, isn't it?
Einstein right or Einstein wrong?

Einstein was wrong about the physics of it,
and Oppeheimer and Volkov showed so in the same year.
(following a lead by Tolman)
Einstein's result is correct of course,
but it applies only to a special (and unphysical) model,

Jan

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by J. J. Lodder
Einstein's result is correct of course,
but it applies only to a special (and unphysical) model,

Just like marxism-leninism, creationism and
many others.

[Ross Finlayson]

Post by rhertz
Einstein didn't buy the "black holes" crap, decades before they were
INVENTED.
The Annals of Mathematics, Second Series, Vol. 40, No. 4
(Oct., 1939), pp. 922-936
(Received May 10, 1939)
ON A STATIONARY SYSTEM WITH SPHERICAL SYMMETRY CONSISTING OF MANY
GRAVITATING MASSES
BY ALBERT EINSTEIN
http://old.phys.huji.ac.il/~barak_kol/Courses/Black-holes/reading-papers/Einstein1939.pdf
------------------------------------------------
"The essential result of this investigation is a clear understanding as
to why the "Schwarzschild singularities" do not exist in physical
reality. Although the theory given here treats only clusters whose
particles move along circular paths it does not seem to be subject to
reasonable doubt that more general cases will have analogous results.
The "Schwarzschild singularity" does not appear for the reason that
matter cannot be concentrated arbitrarily. And this is due to the fact
that otherwise the constituting particles would reach the velocity of
light."
-----------------------------------------------
This investigation arose out of discussions the author conducted with
Professor H. P. Robertson and with Drs. V. Bargmann and P. Bergmann on
the mathematical and physical significance of the Schwarzschild
singularity. The problem quite naturally leads to the question, answered
by this paper in the negative, whether physical models are capable of
exhibiting such a singularity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Earman
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