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Physfitfreak
2025-03-01 20:42:24 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.

The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.

That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.

Let me give you an analogy (you need it!) of what's been happening since
Ukrainian war began.

Imagine one of the major breadwinners in your family is sick in the
hospital and you have to spend a lot of money to keep him alive and
giving him a chance to recover. You decide to do that. But after some
time and paying some medical bills, you treat the breadwinner
aggressively, shouting at him who's helplessly lying in hospital bed,
that he has caused such and such amounts of money and "is not in a
position" to say what he wants, and "is not getting much better" and
"Does not have any cards in his hands."

Do you see the stupidity there? That's how stupid Trump and his admin is.

So Zelensky essentially told those Bozos, "You Bozos better shut your
traps and help Ukraine for your own fucking interests; or, grab your
stupid asses and fuck off and let Putin have it. It is _you_ who are not
in a position to say what you want. Not Ukraine. You have to pay for
getting what you want later in Ukraine."

Anybody with slightest sense in him understood Zelensky's position,
including even the Iranian leader, who tweeted about it in Ukrainian
language.

Zelensky's reaction to bullshit he was receiving from Trump showed what
kind of Nazis they are and how they look at Ukraine. Then of course all
the American media got full of "Oh, see how Zelensky lost his chances
with the US help." No. Trump exposed himself and his nonsensical actions
regarding Ukraine. Just like members of that family in the analogy
above, telling to their own breadwinner he's does not have any cards in
his hands.

The card is a friendly Ukraine. Bigger than the lousy "$350B" Trump was
talking about. $350B is a Bill Gates. Who the fuck is Bill Gates
compared to Ukraine?...

What a fuckup indeed. What a fucked up act can the wrong man and a
fucked up system do in White House. And kudos for Zelensky. It made my
day yesterday.
Joel
2025-03-01 20:48:18 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Physfitfreak
2025-03-01 20:52:40 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.

If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
Joel
2025-03-01 21:04:28 UTC
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Post by Joel
Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Maciej Wozniak
2025-03-01 21:41:43 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
Post by Joel
Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Joel
2025-03-01 22:15:37 UTC
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Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street. Trump has shown that he's needed and so have I.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Maciej Wozniak
2025-03-02 06:39:45 UTC
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Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
Joel
2025-03-02 19:01:43 UTC
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Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
Do you want more war, or an end to the oppression of Ukraine? Because
Putin isn't done. He's waiting to see how the U.S. goes forward.
Kamala Harris would've handled it well, we believe - but people had
more confidence in Trump, it helped him win including the popular
vote.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Bertietaylor
2025-03-02 22:21:58 UTC
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Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
David LaRue
2025-03-02 22:55:48 UTC
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Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation. God told us what to
do. We haven't listened yet.
Bertietaylor
2025-03-02 23:17:07 UTC
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Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation. God told us what to
do. We haven't listened yet.
Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.
Chris M. Thomasson
2025-03-02 23:21:55 UTC
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Post by Bertietaylor
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to
do.  We haven't listened yet.
Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.
I think it might be akin to not thinking about any sort of "punishment"
in the afterlife, if at all? So, they say who gives a crap!
Bertietaylor
2025-03-03 00:07:40 UTC
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Post by Chris M. Thomasson
Post by Bertietaylor
Post by Bertietaylor
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Maciej Wozniak
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
Post by Maciej Wozniak
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to
do.  We haven't listened yet.
Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.
I think it might be akin to not thinking about any sort of "punishment"
in the afterlife, if at all? So, they say who gives a crap!
Indeed the whole practical purpose of religion and metaphysics is to
make people behave better in this life out of fear for what may befall
in the afterlife. When the religion and metaphysics gives clearance for
evil action then there is no difference between atheists and believers,
conduct wise.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

We sinless doggies cannot escape the bliss of low Heaven.

Bertietaylor
Borax Man
2025-03-02 03:24:49 UTC
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Post by Maciej Wozniak
Post by Joel
Post by Physfitfreak
Post by Joel
Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
If anyone is starting wars, its us, who think that every two-bit dicator
is "the next Hitler".

This fear has been crippling us, and leading us into pointless
destruction for too long. Putin is Putin. Hitler was Hitler.

It is YOUR rhetoric which is dangerous, which would lead to WWIII. We
must be willing to negotiate and engage in diplomacy, otherwise the ONLY
option is war with a nuclear power.
Borax Man
2025-03-02 03:22:38 UTC
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Post by Joel
Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
When someone thinks that Trump is a Nazi, or that his supporters are, I
mentally flag them as deranged.
Thomas Heger
2025-03-02 10:31:52 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
Before WWIII there was something commonly called WWII.

Now the overall features of the plot of the Ukraine conflict have
similarities to WWII and the fate of Germany.

Germans had actually believed, they were supported by the USA and the
UK, because there was generous support from Wall Street and the tycoons
of that era.

Also the British king and some parts of the British elite were
supporters of the Nazis.

So, the German took money, weapons and used uniforms and went into war
with Russia (known as 'Soviet Union' at that time).

BUT: the western 'allies' changed their mind and supported Russia later
and bombed their alleged 'friend' into oblivion, while delivering
weapons, money and other supply (including strange items like 'spam') in
huge amounts to Russia.

Something like that seems a likely scenario for the Ukraine, too.

But such a repetition of a successful plot is really stupid, because
people are sometimes stupid, but not all the time.

It is actually dangerous to repeat plots of big scale, because the
repetition would endanger the gain of the first occurrence of the same plot.

Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.

It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
but European.

From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
please).

TH
The Starmaker
2025-03-02 19:03:18 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
Before WWIII there was something commonly called WWII.
Now the overall features of the plot of the Ukraine conflict have
similarities to WWII and the fate of Germany.
Germans had actually believed, they were supported by the USA and the
UK, because there was generous support from Wall Street and the tycoons
of that era.
Also the British king and some parts of the British elite were
supporters of the Nazis.
So, the German took money, weapons and used uniforms and went into war
with Russia (known as 'Soviet Union' at that time).
BUT: the western 'allies' changed their mind and supported Russia later
and bombed their alleged 'friend' into oblivion, while delivering
weapons, money and other supply (including strange items like 'spam') in
huge amounts to Russia.
Something like that seems a likely scenario for the Ukraine, too.
But such a repetition of a successful plot is really stupid, because
people are sometimes stupid, but not all the time.
It is actually dangerous to repeat plots of big scale, because the
repetition would endanger the gain of the first occurrence of the same plot.
Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
but European.
From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
please).
TH
"'only' want their natural resources", then they should KILL for it.


For example...

you got a tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has no bananas, and
they see another
tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has lots of bananas...THEY
HAVE TO KILL FOR IT!!!!

dats is how it is done.


stab the chimpanzees with a pencil!



Nature.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Thomas Heger
2025-03-03 08:40:07 UTC
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Am Sonntag000002, 02.03.2025 um 20:03 schrieb The Starmaker:
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Post by Thomas Heger
Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
but European.
From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
please).
TH
"'only' want their natural resources", then they should KILL for it.
Sure, but that gave 'bad press' in the past and therefore isn't
recommended.

It is better, if the apes offer the bananas themselves.
Post by The Starmaker
For example...
you got a tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has no bananas, and
they see another
tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has lots of bananas...THEY
HAVE TO KILL FOR IT!!!!
dats is how it is done.
Yes, kind of. But in your picture the US are chimpanzees, aiming at the
other apes bananas.
Post by The Starmaker
stab the chimpanzees with a pencil!
Well, yes, 'the pencil is mightier than the sword', (but UseNet is ok, too.)

TH
-hh
2025-03-01 23:19:47 UTC
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Post by Physfitfreak
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.

Note how quickly after the meeting ended (early) the timestamp on finely
crafted press releases were published the White House.

Plus as much as one will want to claim 'America First' on the money
spent, roughly 80% of was spent domestically in the USA.

FYI, an exact value is hard to pin down because its been complicated by
DoD accounting slights-of-hand. For example, M113s sent were claimed as
their original book value (purchase cost) of ~$600,000 each, despite how
they were being diverted from a demil (scrap) program where the DoD was
selling them for $1 (yes, one dollar) each. This inflates the claimed
value of the military aid being sent.
Post by Joel
This could indeed be WWIII.
All sorts of things *could* be. The biggest problem with the USA not
holding up to its 1993 & 2014 treaty obligations is that it can only
embolden other world stage actors such as Iran, NC & China. We've
already seen this is the Suez Canal, Taiwan, Philippines and literally
last week, a new provocation between Australia & New Zealand.
Post by Joel
Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Wish it were so, but there's been zero saber-rattling to motivate Putin
to change course. The only thing which has happened so far this weekend
is that Putin's Hungarian puppet Orban has spoken up on how important it
is for Ukraine to knuckle under & sue for "peace". Recall that Neville
Chamberlain's "Peace in Our Time" success lasted for just 335 days: from
30 Sept 1938 until 31 August 1939. We've seen this playbook before.


-hh
Joel
2025-03-02 00:11:03 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Physfitfreak
2025-03-02 00:30:03 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
He may be _led_ to do that, and I hope he will. But this requires work
from other parties involved before seeing results.
Physfitfreak
2025-03-02 00:52:00 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
He may be _led_ to do that, and I hope he will. But this requires work
from other parties involved before seeing results.
He really fucked yesterday's chances up because his behavior could not
get adjusted by others in a live stream.

Modifications from others are required in leading him in the right
direction. And it is not promising that he has only gathered yes men and
shallow characters around himself in this administration. You will pay
for that!
-hh
2025-03-02 17:13:26 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?

Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.


-hh
Joel
2025-03-02 18:48:26 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
-hh
2025-03-02 21:03:05 UTC
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- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.


-hh
Joel
2025-03-02 21:14:29 UTC
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take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
-hh
2025-03-02 21:41:44 UTC
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Post by Joel
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
No, not saying that I "want" that. I'm merely noting that when you're
doomed to die anyway, nuking the other SOB takes them down with you.

If that starts a larger exchange (or not) is no longer relevant to you
because you're already dead: its the principle of MAD as a deterrent,
and my observation is that MAD only works when both sides have nukes.

So if you really want peace, solution is give Ukraine back their nukes.


-hh
Maciej Wozniak
2025-03-02 21:47:15 UTC
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take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
Bertietaylor
2025-03-02 22:10:42 UTC
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What fools these apes be!
The Starmaker
2025-03-02 23:11:21 UTC
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Post by Joel
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
How about Cuba?


How about Mexico?


How about Canada?


How about Brooklyn??
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Joel
2025-03-03 00:56:19 UTC
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Post by Joel
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything. That's why I'm suddenly joining with DJT.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Maciej Wozniak
2025-03-03 05:25:58 UTC
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take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.



That's why I'm suddenly joining with DJT.
Joel
2025-03-03 13:43:59 UTC
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We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that. But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Maciej Wozniak
2025-03-03 14:53:48 UTC
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We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
No you wouldn't.
Post by Joel
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.
Joel
2025-03-03 20:44:11 UTC
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We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
No you wouldn't.
Post by Joel
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.
I voted for H. Clinton, Biden and Harris, three times against DJT, but
now I'm saying he won the 2024 election.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
Rudy Canoza
2025-03-02 08:35:41 UTC
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With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Did you tell Trump you like men to fuck you in the ass?
Bertietaylor
2025-03-02 13:05:29 UTC
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As you are the stupidest ape around here, Roachie, you are the most
suited to praise the disastrous ape Zelensky, who has lost 20% of his
country and so many lives out of sheer folly from unreal expectations
and misguidance from cunning parasites. Stupendously bad leadership.

Trump and Vance have shown the minimum sense required to stop WW3 and
the meaningless sufferings of Russia and Ukraine. Which have been
created to enrich western elites, kill Orthodox Christians and restart
the interrupted plunder of Russia. The US has had the sense to
understand that Russia has won and NATO has lost. Good for all when the
violence stops.

Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

What fools these apes be!
Physfitfreak
2025-03-03 05:27:26 UTC
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- An Iranian 2023 animation short film won Oskar today :)

The only free link to watch it is provided by a Russian site:

https://ok.ru/video/8837471996600

Everywhere else you have to rent it for about $4 for 24 hours to see it.
It is about 20 minutes long. Enjoy :)
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