What Time Is It on the Moon?

[The Starmaker]

https://www.wsj.com/science/space-astronomy/moon-time-nasa-mission-650b6c36?mod=hp_listb_pos1


i should ask Maciej, he or she seems to be an expert on moon time.

gps on the moon...

TOMORROW THE MARS!!!!

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by The Starmaker
https://www.wsj.com/science/space-astronomy/moon-time-nasa-mission-650b6c36?mo

d=hp_listb_pos1

Indeed, a good experiment, but hardly news.
There is already an atomic clock (two even)
on the GAIA sat, well beyond the moon at L2,
which behaves as expected.

The most pressing problem with it:
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

Jan

[Tom Roberts]

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Tom Roberts

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

That has been solved for the time being: no time zones. [1]

No leap seconds either, all clocks in space refer to TAI,
or to coordinate times that are linked directly to TAI.
(like TCB or TCG for example)

Jan

[1] IIRC Heinlein's Loonies have no time zones either.

[Peter-John Rodrigues]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Tom Roberts

The most pressing problem with [lunar timing an location): what are
they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

That has been solved for the time being: no time zones. [1]
No leap seconds either, all clocks in space refer to TAI, or to
coordinate times that are linked directly to TAI. (like TCB or TCG for
example) Jan
[1] IIRC Heinlein's Loonies have no time zones either.

neither here. That's not what we call "a slow moving clock". Your task is
impossible. It's illusory. Better read these papers, they say Aether is
real, new science has to go.

𝗗𝗼𝗲𝘀_𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦_𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸_𝗳𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗿?_𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼_𝗶𝘀_𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺_2016..._
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/FwnMRURkXLMO

𝗦𝗰𝗼𝘁𝘁_𝗥𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱_𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗙𝗕𝗜_𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗱_𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀_𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻_24𝗵_-_𝗔𝘂𝗴_8,_2024
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/0HtDTWByOexv

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2024-08-08 22:46:30 +0000, "Peter-John Rodrigues" (aka paganini.bofh.team)

Post by Peter-John Rodrigues
𝗗𝗼𝗲𝘀_𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦_𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸_𝗳𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗿?_𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼_𝗶𝘀_𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺_2016..._
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/FwnMRURkXLMO
𝗦𝗰𝗼𝘁𝘁_𝗥𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱_𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗙𝗕𝗜_𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗱_𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀_𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻_24𝗵_-_𝗔𝘂𝗴_8,_2024
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/0HtDTWByOexv

At the risk of stealing Python's thunder:

Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1394038";
posting-host="mB8vHYkr6wt4t9F6IUBNNA.user.paganini.bofh.team";
mail-complaints-to="***@bofh.team";
posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";

[Brody Dobrenkov]

Post by Peter-John Rodrigues
𝗗𝗼𝗲𝘀_𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦_𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸_𝗳𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗿?_𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼_𝗶𝘀_𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺_2016..._
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/FwnMRURkXLMO
𝗦𝗰𝗼𝘁𝘁_𝗥𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱_𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗙𝗕𝗜_𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗱_𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗲_𝗶𝗻_𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀_𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻_24𝗵_-_𝗔𝘂𝗴_8,_2024
https://old.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/0HtDTWByOexv

good re_posting the links to the papers. You guys are either mental
retarded, or simply idiots.

𝗦𝗰𝗼𝘁𝘁_𝗥𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿_"𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹_𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝘀𝘂𝗿𝘃𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁_𝗶𝘁_𝗵𝗮𝘀_𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗲𝗱,_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹_𝗴𝗼_𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻"
https://old.b%69%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/hSrDyVtluPkw/

you dont undrestand tensors and everything.

[Olen Richelieu]

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

been in Marseilles, it's full of shit. A "taxi" raped me for €150, the
arab didnt know geography, and was staying in a hotel near ST
Microtechnology. Still shit, but manageable. One evening ordered 5 times
different things, crabs and molluscs no idea, then still went hungry in
bed.

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻_𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀_𝗽𝗼𝘂𝗿_𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼_𝗞𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗸
https://old.b%69%74%63%68%75te.com/%76%69%64eo/cZ4frQ38Abbl

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

That has been solved for the time being: no time zones. [1]
No leap seconds either, all clocks in space refer to TAI,
or to coordinate times that are linked directly to TAI.

Nobody wants your local time idiocy - even
you yourself are not stupid enough.

[Thomas Heger]

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Timezones have nothig to do with time.

Timezones are used to make the numerical value of the time of the
sunrise at least somehow equal for all places on the Earth' surface.

As Moon is not located on Earth' surface, the man in the Moon has other
worries than our time zones.

Because the 'day' is quite long on the moon, the 'hours' could be as well.

Or they use more 'hours' there, if they want to.

But that isn't related to the nature of time, because the sunrise istn't
time neither.

TH

[The Starmaker]

Post by Thomas Heger

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Timezones have nothig to do with time.
Timezones are used to make the numerical value of the time of the
sunrise at least somehow equal for all places on the Earth' surface.
As Moon is not located on Earth' surface, the man in the Moon has other
worries than our time zones.
Because the 'day' is quite long on the moon, the 'hours' could be as well.
Or they use more 'hours' there, if they want to.
But that isn't related to the nature of time, because the sunrise istn't
time neither.
TH

If time is what a clock says, and the sun says it's sunrise on the sun
clock, it's time is sunrise. Am I wrong?

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by Thomas Heger

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Timezones have nothig to do with time.
Timezones are used to make the numerical value of the time of the
sunrise at least somehow equal for all places on the Earth' surface.
As Moon is not located on Earth' surface, the man in the Moon has other
worries than our time zones.
Because the 'day' is quite long on the moon, the 'hours' could be as well.
Or they use more 'hours' there, if they want to.
But that isn't related to the nature of time, because the sunrise istn't
time neither.
TH

If time is what a clock says, and the sun says it's sunrise on the sun
clock, it's time is sunrise. Am I wrong?

What time is sunrise on the sun?

Jan

[The Starmaker]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by The Starmaker

Post by Thomas Heger

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Timezones have nothig to do with time.
Timezones are used to make the numerical value of the time of the
sunrise at least somehow equal for all places on the Earth' surface.
As Moon is not located on Earth' surface, the man in the Moon has other
worries than our time zones.
Because the 'day' is quite long on the moon, the 'hours' could be as well.
Or they use more 'hours' there, if they want to.
But that isn't related to the nature of time, because the sunrise istn't
time neither.
TH

If time is what a clock says, and the sun says it's sunrise on the sun
clock, it's time is sunrise. Am I wrong?

What time is sunrise on the sun?
Jan

The sun clock sits on the earth not on the sun. They are called
sun-clock sundial.

[The Starmaker]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by The Starmaker

Post by Thomas Heger

Post by Tom Roberts

Post by J. J. Lodder
what are they going to call the lunar equivalent of the geoid?
The 'loonoid', perhaps?

A more pressing problem is: which timezone(s) will be used?
With a ~ 700-hour "day" it's not clear what to do....

Timezones have nothig to do with time.
Timezones are used to make the numerical value of the time of the
sunrise at least somehow equal for all places on the Earth' surface.
As Moon is not located on Earth' surface, the man in the Moon has other
worries than our time zones.
Because the 'day' is quite long on the moon, the 'hours' could be as well.
Or they use more 'hours' there, if they want to.
But that isn't related to the nature of time, because the sunrise istn't
time neither.
TH

If time is what a clock says, and the sun says it's sunrise on the sun
clock, it's time is sunrise. Am I wrong?

What time is sunrise on the sun?
Jan

The sun clock sits on the earth not on the sun. They are called
sun-clock sundial.

https://sunclock.net/