Lots of Christian Atheists here, ain't they?

[The Starmaker]

wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??


make up your mind..trans.

There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.


damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.


okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...

dis is my church now, everybody pays!


I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

[kazu]

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

transitive property precludes the existence of such a being.

[Dawn Flood]

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

Why are you cross-posting this crap in the physics groups?

Dawn

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

[Dawn Flood]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup? Or, the theory? I am assuming the former.

Thanks,

Dawn

[kazu]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup?  Or, the theory?  I am assuming the former.
Thanks,
Dawn

uhh both of them are mad, general relativity is as rock solid as
ever, matching observations of all kinds of esoteric phenomenon
till date. nothing that disagrees with the theory as yet!

the biggest one recently being the detection of gravity waves.

people are trying to quantize gravity, but no dice.

[Dawn Flood]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup?  Or, the theory?  I am assuming the former.
Thanks,
Dawn

uhh both of them are mad, general relativity is as rock solid as ever,
matching observations of all kinds of esoteric phenomenon till date.
nothing that disagrees with the theory as yet!
the biggest one recently being the detection of gravity waves.
people are trying to quantize gravity, but no dice.

Okay, thanks! To think that long ago Usenet used to be a respectable
place to share thoughtful ideas as opposed to solitary cranks who are
now using it to spread their nonsense.

Dawn

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

CORRECTION: Kazu: You are a petulant child making demands. No one needs
to propose a new theory to criticize the old one.

[kazu]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
CORRECTION: Kazu: You are a petulant child making demands. No one needs
to propose a new theory to criticize the old one.

what exactly is your criticism? could you state it concretely? by
default, the criticism would point to an observation, a deviation
from the theory. else if everything aligns with the theory, there
is nothing really being criticized, is there?

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Kazu: Critically criticizing relativity and modern physics doesn't take
a genius. You are unaware of the many excellent books criticizing both.

[kazu]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Kazu: Critically criticizing relativity and modern physics
doesn't take
a genius. You are unaware of the many excellent books criticizing both.

i know there are problems with relativity in terms of viewing it
as a quantum phenomenon. then there are "problems" with quantum
mechanics in terms of interpretation. then there is dark energy
and dark matter, problems with singularities, neutrinos,
inflationary theories.. etc.

there are many open problems in physics and certainty one day we
might move beyond relativity. one point, in our day to day
activities, the engineering still relies on newtonian mechanics
and calculus.

you have to understand it in terms of a ladder, with each step,
your understanding becomes more refined and applies to more
extreme cases that cannot be explained by the previous theory. a
popular example is GPS, without general relativity, it would not
be feasible.

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Dawn Flood: The idea that real skepticism is only skeptical of
alternative ideas and accepts the status quo as gospel truth is the
mentality of an imbecile. If you can't see how foolish modern physics is
what is the matter with you?

[kazu]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: The idea that real skepticism is only skeptical of
alternative ideas and accepts the status quo as gospel truth is the
mentality of an imbecile. If you can't see how foolish modern
physics is
what is the matter with you?

what is the matter with you?? are you the 21st century galileo?
what is your copernican model? tell us how the field equations
are wrong?

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Dawn Flood: You are a petulant child making demands. No one needs to
propose a new theory to criticize the old one.

[Jim Pennino]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: You are a petulant child making demands. No one needs to
propose a new theory to criticize the old one.

If they want to be taken seriously and not deemed a crackpot, they most
certainly do.

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by Jim Pennino

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: You are a petulant child making demands. No one needs to
propose a new theory to criticize the old one.

If they want to be taken seriously and not deemed a crackpot, they most
certainly do.

- It's not just me and my idiot guru saying!
It's MUONS!!! And EXPERIMENTS!!! And the
overwhelming majority saying!!!!!

- but experiments can't speak and the
overwhelming majority is not even aware
of your idiocies...

- UUUU!!! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!! UUUUUUUUUU!!!!
PLONK!!!!!

[LaurenceClarkCrossen]

Dawn Flood: Both types of skepticism are serious: of alternative ideas
like ghosts and Bigfoot and consensus ideas like curved space and time
dilation. All of these are absurd.

[The Starmaker]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Both types of skepticism are serious: of alternative ideas
like ghosts and Bigfoot and consensus ideas like curved space and time
dilation. All of these are absurd.

Albert Einstein realized that his idea of 'time dilation' was incorrect.


Maybe he is in Heaven now saying to everyone..."I meant time dilation... IN A VACUMN!!!!"


All experiments made on 'time dilation' are fraud experiments.

[kazu]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Both types of skepticism are serious: of alternative ideas
like ghosts and Bigfoot and consensus ideas like curved space and time
dilation. All of these are absurd.

Albert Einstein realized that his idea of 'time dilation' was incorrect.
Maybe he is in Heaven now saying to everyone..."I meant time dilation... IN A VACUMN!!!!"
All experiments made on 'time dilation' are fraud experiments.

what nonsense, both of you should book a hotel room and discuss
how time dilation and length contraction doesnt exist. it might
lead to something more....

[The Starmaker]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Both types of skepticism are serious: of alternative ideas
like ghosts and Bigfoot and consensus ideas like curved space and time
dilation. All of these are absurd.

Albert Einstein realized that his idea of 'time dilation' was incorrect.


Maybe he is in Heaven now saying to everyone..."I meant time dilation... IN A VACUMN!!!!"


All experiments made on 'time dilation' are fraud experiments.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

predict something that differs from the standard model, confirm it with
experimentation.

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has ever
known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group such a
magnet for nutters?

Simple: that's because the teachings of
your bunch of idiots violate common sense,
basic math and some basic definitions
applied by sane people and very important
for them.

[kazu]

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum
fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius
rebel among us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is
not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not
only LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee
(otherwise known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician
humanity has ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots.
Why is this group such a magnet for nutters? Not even
talk.origins has so many.

might be that.... personality disorder? what is it called?
grandiosity and stuff.

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
about a lack of nutters.

This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
(Intelligent Design)

With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
(as you well know)
The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
They don't have an alternative to teach.
So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

Jan

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
about a lack of nutters.
This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
(Intelligent Design)
With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
(as you well know)
The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
They don't have an alternative to teach.
So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

It would be sure much better and easier
for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
had some idiocies comparable to theirs.

[kazu]

Post by Maciej Wozniak

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum
fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius
rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not
hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee
(otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician
humanity has
ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
about a lack of nutters.
This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
(Intelligent Design)
With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery
collapsed.
(as you well know)
The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
They don't have an alternative to teach.
So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

It would be sure much better and easier
for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
had some  idiocies comparable to theirs.

what is it about relativity that you disagree? speed of light
constant in all reference frames?

[Maciej Wozniak]

Post by Maciej Wozniak

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.

as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
about a lack of nutters.
This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
(Intelligent Design)
With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
(as you well know)
The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
They don't have an alternative to teach.
So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

It would be sure much better and easier
for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
had some  idiocies comparable to theirs.

what is it about relativity that you disagree? speed of light constant
in all reference frames?

That wouldn't be disagreeing; even your insane guru
was unable to stick to such an absurd for a long time
and his GR has withdrawn from it.

And what I disagree? First - pretending that
desynchronized clocks are somehow better than
synchronized ones, because of some moronic symmetry;
second - rejecting basic [Euclidean] math.
Third - last but not least - your mad, fanatic
arrogance.

[The Starmaker]

Post by kazu

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup? Or, the theory? I am assuming the former.
Thanks,
Dawn

uhh both of them are mad, general relativity is as rock solid as
ever, matching observations of all kinds of esoteric phenomenon
till date. nothing that disagrees with the theory as yet!
the biggest one recently being the detection of gravity waves.
people are trying to quantize gravity, but no dice.

kazuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


How did you come up with that name????


it's a girl's name...are you a girl?

[The Starmaker]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by kazu

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup? Or, the theory? I am assuming the former.
Thanks,
Dawn

uhh both of them are mad, general relativity is as rock solid as
ever, matching observations of all kinds of esoteric phenomenon
till date. nothing that disagrees with the theory as yet!
the biggest one recently being the detection of gravity waves.
people are trying to quantize gravity, but no dice.

kazuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
How did you come up with that name????
it's a girl's name...are you a girl?

its not a girl's name, kazu means number. i am a trader by side
hustle, i want to get into it full time. but presently i am just
losing money.

IT'S A GIRLS NAME!!!!

The name Kazu is primarily a female name
https://babynames.com/name/kazu

In other words, most people with the name "kazu" are...girls. GIRLS! It's a chick name!!



How did you come up with that name???? your muther wanted a girl...she shoulda named you Sue. kasueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[kazu]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by The Starmaker

Post by kazu

Post by LaurenceClarkCrossen
Dawn Flood: Starmaker likes to joke around. After all, physics
(especially relativity) nowadays is utterly ridiculous.

The newsgroup? Or, the theory? I am assuming the former.
Thanks,
Dawn

uhh both of them are mad, general relativity is as rock solid as
ever, matching observations of all kinds of esoteric phenomenon
till date. nothing that disagrees with the theory as yet!
the biggest one recently being the detection of gravity waves.
people are trying to quantize gravity, but no dice.

kazuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
How did you come up with that name????
it's a girl's name...are you a girl?

its not a girl's name, kazu means number. i am a trader by side
hustle, i want to get into it full time. but presently i am just
losing money.

IT'S A GIRLS NAME!!!!
The name Kazu is primarily a female name
https://babynames.com/name/kazu
In other words, most people with the name "kazu" are...girls. GIRLS! It's a chick name!!

OH SHITE!! YOU JUST RUINED MY BLOODY DAY!!!

i didnt know it was a girl's name, it actually also means number.

Post by The Starmaker
How did you come up with that name???? your muther wanted a girl...she shoulda named you Sue. kasueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

SHUT THE FUCK UP!! it also means number, but now i will have to
change my name again.

[The Starmaker]

Post by Dawn Flood

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

Why are you cross-posting this crap in the physics groups?
Dawn

Oh come on Dawn, you of all people are the biggest Christian Atheist in the world!
You read more about Jesus Christ than anyone else here! You and Jesus Christ are buddie buddies.


You are an absolute Christian Atheist.


You have good company, Richard Dawkins is known to be a...Christian Atheist.

[Dawn Flood]

Post by The Starmaker

Post by Dawn Flood

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

Why are you cross-posting this crap in the physics groups?
Dawn

Oh come on Dawn, you of all people are the biggest Christian Atheist in the world!
You read more about Jesus Christ than anyone else here! You and Jesus Christ are buddie buddies.
You are an absolute Christian Atheist.
You have good company, Richard Dawkins is known to be a...Christian Atheist.

And, so, people who study Jesus automatically "believe" in Jesus??
Ditto for scholars of the Aztecs, Greeks and the Mesolithic Era?

Dawn

[The Starmaker]

Post by Dawn Flood

Post by The Starmaker

Post by Dawn Flood

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

Why are you cross-posting this crap in the physics groups?
Dawn

Oh come on Dawn, you of all people are the biggest Christian Atheist in the world!
You read more about Jesus Christ than anyone else here! You and Jesus Christ are buddie buddies.
You are an absolute Christian Atheist.
You have good company, Richard Dawkins is known to be a...Christian Atheist.

And, so, people who study Jesus automatically "believe" in Jesus??
Ditto for scholars of the Aztecs, Greeks and the Mesolithic Era?
Dawn

what happen to you Dawnnnie, the glass slipper didn't fit?

[The Starmaker]

Post by The Starmaker
wats a Christian Atheists? Is that an atheists who
don't believe in God but believes in Jesus Christ??
make up your mind..trans.
There are too many atheists here that have
christian values...yous knows whos yous ares.
damn, alt.atheism is like a church...with different relgions in it.
okay, i'm passing out the collection plate here...
dis is my church now, everybody pays!
I guess a Christian Atheist is a person who don't want to go to hell.

Any Christian Scientists out there?


There are two types of Scientists...one believes in God, the other
doesn't.


How can they both be Scientists????



The minute one of them mentions God...


Science is really a Cosmic Religion.